#S2Roadshow Recap – Week Seven

Rochester (NY), Kansas City (MO), and Sacramento (CA)

A good week that started with serving a great FRSecure customer in Rochester before heading off to preach in Kansas City and Sacramento. This was the first week that we ran into a person (or group of people) who epitomized something that’s wrong with our industry. Read on.

SecurityStudio Roadshow Summary

If you’re new, or you’re confused about this #S2Roadshow thing, start here (maybe). It’s hard to believe that each week gets better, but it’s true, it does! Week #6 (this one) was the best yet.

Previous Week’s Recaps:

The purpose of the SecurityStudio Roadshow (#S2Roadhow) is to meet people and make partners. We want to meet people, understand their businesses, and help them grow using simple, fundamental, and compliant solutions (S2Score, S2Org, S2Vendor, and S2Team/S2Me).

Our mission is to fix the broken information security industry. Success requires collaboration, partnership, and transparency.

This is the first time we’ve done three cities in one week! It was tough, but very rewarding. The week started of in Rochester to work with a long-time FRSecure customer, then west to Kansas City (Greater Kansas City ISACA Chapter), then further west to Sacramento (Sacramento Valley ISSA Chapter).

Ryan Abraham from FRSecure joined me in Rochester. John Harmon was with me in Kansas City and Sacramento.

BBQ Reviews

In full transparency, we have a secondary mission on the #S2Roadshow. We eat as much BBQ as we can. After stuffing ourselves, I summarize our BBQ reviews at the end of each recap article (see below).

Rochester, New York

Flew to Rochester on Sunday evening. The week started off with some customer project work. I don’t get to work on many customer projects anymore, and I miss it sometimes. This project is a big one, and it requires the development of a new methodology (or two). Sort of cool. Here’s what I can tell you…

  • There are numerous projects.
  • Two of the projects include SecurityStudio products; S2Org and S2Team.
  • We’re putting together a board presentation for S2Org and their S2Score.
  • The customer wants to take the S2Org, S2Score, S2Team, and one of the new methodologies we developed to their group of other like companies. This could become a really big deal!

Honestly, these are some of my favorite people in the security business! We got a ton of work done and collaborated on some very cool things.

Ryan Abraham has worked at FRSecure for a couple of years now, and this is the first time we’ve had the opportunity to work on anything together. It was awesome! Ryan’s an incredible asset to FRSecure, our customers, and this industry. Had a great time getting a bunch of work done and preaching the good (security) news.

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We nabbed some good BBQ at Dinosaur BBQ in Rochester (twice, review below).

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It snowed 8(ish) inches while we were in Rochester. First snow storm of the year for me.

Got back to the Twin Cities late on Tuesday night. On to Kansas City Wednesday.

Kansas City, Missouri

The purpose of the trip to Kansas City is to meet with the local ISACA chapter and spread some love. Met John Harmon at the airport and we were off to Kansas City. On the way, we decided that we both needed a new pair of Bose noise cancelling headphones. Impulse buy, but these things are awesome!

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John and I landed in Kansas City, grabbed our rental car, then got down to business. By business, I mean find BBQ. The rental car bus driver told us we had to try Q39, so that’s what we did (review below). After BBQ, I texted my Mexican son (long story that I’ll share in person if you find me), Officer Salinas of the Lenexa Police Department. We found him on patrol and hung out with him until he got a call he had to get to. I can’t begin to tell you how proud I am of this guy! He’s amazing.

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Finished the day in Kansas City with some frozen yogurt (froyo) before checking in at the hotel and getting work done. You know, the real work.

Greater Kansas City ISACA Chapter

We met up with the great people who represent the Greater Kansas City ISACA Chapter on Thursday at the University of Kansas Edwards Campus. The venue was beautiful, and the people were even better. Preached the normal(ish) sermon about fixing our broken information security language problem, and encouraged everyone to get their free SecurityStudio account and complete their free  S2Org and S2Me assessments. Yes, they’re completely free!

My sermon has evolved a bit. The (newish) agenda goes from housekeeping (introduction) to the meat (our language, simplification, and fundamentals problem) to the dream (securing America) to the call to action (get our assessments, give us feedback by being part of our community, and preach). If you haven’t heard it yet, come get me. I’ll preach to you too!

I made some new friends including (but not limited to) J.J., Jennifer, Brian, Joan, and Beth. Seriously awesome people! They all stand out, and J.J. Widener is a champ. His support for what we’re doing is super helpful and appreciated! This guy gets it.

Here’s some pictures that John took at the event.

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After the ISACA talk, we headed out for more BBQ and the airport. Last stop before heading home this week was Sacramento. The weather there doesn’t suck.

Sacramento, California

This turned out to be a quick stop for us. We arrived at 1am (local time) Friday, got some rest at the hotel, gave our talk at the Sacramento Valley ISSA chapter meeting, and got back on a plane for a long flight back to the Twin Cities. No BBQ, which was sort of sad, but I don’t know what kind of BBQ they have in Sacramento anyway.

Sacramento Valley ISSA

This was a relatively small gathering, and one where we hit our first snag on the SecurityStudio Roadshow. Seven weeks in, and our first snag, not bad! Here’s the deal.

We make numerous points in our Roadshow presentation, and two key points are #1, we need to simplify information security for “normal” people and #2, we need to get much better on agreeing what the hell it is we do as a profession. We learned the first point based on what “normal” people have told us after asking ~1,000 of them in a survey and through experience. Yes, we asked people what they think instead of telling them what they think. Big difference!

We learned the second point through basic logic.

The snag came not because the points are invalid, but because we had someone in the audience who liked to think that he was the smartest person in the room.

On point #1. We asked almost 1,000 “normal” people (business people and people who don’t do information security for a living) what we (information security people) can do to make information security more useful, and what we can do to serve them better. Once we received their answers, we made a word map of the raw data (see pic below). The most common word in their answers was “simple”. We need to make information security more simple. This is a good thing because complexity is the enemy of information security (thank you Bruce Schneier).

On this point, most people in this audience agreed (based upon their head nodding and facial expressions); however, I could already sense trouble brewing from the person I alluded to above.

My talk then goes on to tackle an issue that simplification requires a common agreement among security professionals. We will never effectively translate our language to “normal” people’s language until we agree on our language first. Logical, right? Let’s start with the most basic issue at hand, what is “information security”? We should all be able to agree on this fundamental definition. Things started to get sideways here.

Information Security is… (the question posed to the audience). Most audiences give some definitions, then I offer mine. Not that mine is the end all, be all.

I go on. Information Security is managing risk. On this point, I haven’t received disagreement from anyone before, but our guy starts starts chiming in. He doesn’t chime in from an angle of disagreement, but more to add his two cents.

Next. Information Security is NOT eliminating risk, despite what some people think. General agreement on this point too, but our guy still has to add his two cents.

Next. Information Security is NOT compliance, despite the fact that most information security dollars are spent from this motivator. Now our guy feels the need to completely sidetrack the conversation and before we know it, we’re deep in a rabbit hole.

It took almost full hour to get to what I was hoping would be our common definition of information security as “managing risk to unauthorized disclosure, alteration, and/or destruction of information using administrative, physical, and technical controls“. It’s not so much that our guy disagreed with the definition or (God-forbid) gave us an alternative definition as much as his deep desire to be the smartest guy in the room. I called him out for this during the presentation (whether I should have or not is debatable) and it got tense, but whatever. You call it like you see it.

Eventually, we got through the presentation. Due to the monopolization of time, we didn’t have any left for visiting afterwards. We had to run immediately after the talk to catch our flight back to the Twin Cities.

Here’s what I learned from this talk:

  • Everyone is entitled to their opinions.
  • There is a time and a place for opinions and wasting everyone’s time is not the place for your opinions.
  • I could have done a much better job of controlling the dialog during my talk.
  • As long as we’re all fighting to be the smartest guy in the room, we’ll never solve our industry’s problems.
  • Once you choose your hill to die on, you will probably die on that hill.

Made it back safe and sound in Minneapolis. Overall, it was an incredible week!

BBQ Reviews

Three BBQ reviews this week. Three is better than two, which is all we got in the previous few weeks. Our BBQ visits this week included Dinosaur BBQ in Rochester, Q39 in Overland Park, and Iron Horse BBQ in Platte City.

Dinosaur BBQ – https://www.dinosaurbarbque.com/rochester/ – Overall: 8.25

  • Atmosphere – 8, it’s a cool place with a great vibe. The lighting is perfect for a BBQ joint, there’s a lot of wood, and the view of the river is super cool.
  • Service – 9, great service all-around. These people make you feel at home.
  • Portion/Value – 7, a little pricey for how much food you get, but what place isn’t?
  • Taste – 9, incredible, especially the ribs and wings.

In full transparency, I’ve eaten at Dinosaur BBQ in Rochester many times. It’s a great BBQ joint and I’ve enjoyed every visit I’ve made. This was Ryan Abraham’s first visit to Rochester, so we made sure to stop in. Actually, we ended up eating here twice during this trip. Poor us!

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I’ve visited Rochester more than a dozen times and eaten BBQ at just about every place this city offers. Dinosaur is the best BBQ in Rochester. On this trip, I ate their ribs, brisket, wings, and pulled pork. The brisket and pulled pork were good, but the ribs and wings were friggin’ amazing! The ribs were arguably the best I’ve had on the SecurityStudio Roadshow so far. If you’re in Rochester, and you like BBQ (even if you don’t like BBQ), a visit to Dinosaur is a must!

Q39 – https://q39kc.com/ – Overall: 7.75

  • Atmosphere – 7, this is a little too upscale feeling for me. A very nice restaurant, but not down-homey enough for my taste.
  • Service – 8, great service. I was in the middle of a conference call at the beginning, so I might have missed something here. Guess, I’ll have to visit again!
  • Portion/Value – 7, a little spendy.
  • Taste – 9, super! The burnt ends and brisket were the bomb!

This was the first stop for me and John after landing in Kansas City. We received a tip to visit this place from our rental car terminal bus driver, and obviously this guy knew what he was talking about! Kansas City is known for their BBQ and we had dozens of places to choose from, but we made a good call here.

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This was a great welcome to Kansas City and we highly recommend visiting Q39!

Iron Horse BBQ – no website – Overall: 7.0

  • Atmosphere – 5, I’m not a big fan of the strip mall BBQ joint vibe, so this was a downer.
  • Service – 9, great service! These guys gave us some free burnt ends and came out from behind the counter to visit with us. Really cool people here!
  • Portion/Value – 8, very reasonably priced for large portions of food.
  • Taste – 6, the taste was too bland and overall disappointing.

We were in a bit of a rush after the ISACA talk, but we had to fit in one more BBQ visit before we left. It’s Kansas City for crying out loud!

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We’ll give these guys the benefit of the doubt. I think they recently moved into this new location, and I don’t think they’ve gotten completely settled yet. It’s worth trying again some time in the future, but it might be hard to get back here given all the awesome BBQ joints in Kansas City.

No promises.

BBQ Summary

Three new BBQ joints to add to our list. This was a good BBQ week. The winner this week was Dinosaur BBQ (Rochester). Pecan Lodge is still on top as the overall #S2Roadshow leader with a score of 9, and Bowlegged BBQ is still in the #2 spot. The current overall standings are listed below.

Overall Standings (at the end of #S2Roadshow Week Seven):

  • Pecan Lodge – 9
  • Bowlegged BBQ – 8.75
  • Divine Swine – 8.5
  • Dinosaur BBQ – 8.25
  • Big Ed’s BBQ – 8.25
  • Mission BBQ – 8
  • Q39 BBQ – 7.75
  • Cousin’s BBQ – 7.75
  • Blackwood BBQ – 7.5
  • Broad Street BBQ – 7.5
  • Hard Eight – 7.25
  • Spring Creek Barbeque – 7.25
  • Redd’s BBQ – 7.25
  • Iron Horse – 7
  • Lucille’s Smokehouse BBQ – 7
  • Texas Bar-B-Q Joint – 7
  • Smoque – 6.75
  • Sweet Lucy’s Smokehouse – 6.75
  • Red Coal BBQ – 6.75
  • Unkl Moe’s – 6.5
  • Hambone’s Smokehouse – 6.25
  • Shakedown BBQ – N/A (wasn’t open when it was supposed to be, wasted trip)

Next Week’s #S2Roadshow

A less busy week, but still a great one planned. The Roadshow starts on Tuesday with another visit to Kansas City, then it’s on to Webster University in Irvine, California. We’re giving the standard sermon at a joint seminar between Webster University, ISSA, ISACA, and OWASP. Pretty pumped!

Looking forward to another great week!

Stay tuned for next week’s #S2Roadshow updates. You can follow us on Twitter (@evanfrancen, @HarmonJohn, @StudioSecurity, and the #S2Roadshow hashtag) and on LinkedIn.

See you next week! If you want to collaborate with us, get in touch!

The UNSECURITY Podcast – Episode 54 Show Notes

Show notes are almost on time this week! Yay us.

I started writing our show notes on Thursday night in the Salt Lake City airport, and now I’m finishing them on a plane back from LA. Ugh. The life.

This was a crazy week, but what’s new? While Brad’s been bustin’ his tail keeping up with FRSecure’s sales and operations, I’ve been traveling the country on the SecurityStudio Roadshow. My travels this week took me to Rochester (NY), Baltimore (MD – layover), Kansas City (MO), Salt Lake City (UT – layover), Sacramento (CA), and Los Angeles (CA – layover).

I’m supposed to get home late on Friday night. We’ll see. 🙂

If you’d like to follow the SecurityStudio Roadshow, I write a recap every week on my/this site. Keep up with me, and give me some BBQ tips.

I’ve met some amazing people on my travels, and one really cool cat is Kenneth Bechtel. I met Kenneth during week one of the SecurityStudio Roadshow. On week one, John Harmon and I traveled to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania for BSides. I was speaking in a mid-morning session and Kenneth was the keynote speaker.

I have a lot of respect for Kenneth because he’s been at his game for a long time. He’s been doing threat hunting before threat hunting was a thing. Big props to this guy. During our time together at BSides, Kenneth shared his recent troubles finding a job. This bugs me. So, I invited him to be a guest on the podcast.

We’re honored to have him share some of his wisdom. We’ll try to get to the bottom of his job search struggle too.

Special thanks to Brandon Matis for putting together last week’s anniversary show! That couldn’t have been easy.

Pretty sure I’m supposed to lead this episode, so here goes.

My show to lead this week and these are my notes.


SHOW NOTES – Episode 54

Date: Monday, November 18th, 2019

Show Topics:

Our topics this week:

  • What’s up man?
  • Introducing Kenneth Bechtel
    • The earlier days versus today. What’s changed and what’s the same?
    • The (alleged) infosec labor crunch. Kenneth isn’t the first person who’s had trouble finding work. What gives?
  • New show ideas
  • News
Opening

[Evan] Hey UNSECURITY Podcast listeners! This is episode 54, and the date is November 18th, 2019. I’m Evan Francen, and it’s my show this week. Brad’s here with me too. Care to chime in Brad?

[BradYou know he’s got something to say. Probably something good too!

[Evan] Alright, we’ve got another great show planned!

  • Brad and I are going to catchup with our craziness quick.
  • We’re going to get real with a true information security pioneer Kenneth Bechtel. He’s got an incredible amount of wisdom to share and we want to get to the bottom of why people like Kenneth are not getting hired when we have this alleged talent shortage.
  • We’ll talk about an upcoming show idea that we have, then we’ll wrap with some newsy things.

I’m pumped about this show! So, let’s get on with it, eh?

[Brad] Brad’ll agree probably.

[Evan] So, what’s up man?! I’ve been out for the past two weeks preaching to folks everywhere and stuff. I missed you man.

Catchin’ up with Brad (quick)

[Evan] Alright, enough of that. We are excited and honored to have Kenneth Bechtel on the phone, so let’s welcome him. Hi Kenneth.

[Kenneth] He’ll confirm (unless of course we have some tech issue or something).

[Evan] Can’t tell you how grateful and pumped we are to have you on the show! We’re going to get to know each other more, and discuss things. I’d like to start off with you telling us about you, then we can talk about how the industry has evolved, then lastly, let’s discuss this whole infosec talent shortage thing.

I found an old photo of you on your Team Anti-Virus website.

About Kenneth:

I have been actively involved in Anti-Malware defense and research since 1988 at both a corporate and international level, with close ties to the international Anti-Malware efforts and fellow researchers.

In the corporate world, I have worked as both a Virus Laboratory and Field researcher for major organizations, providing expert support for malware outbreaks.

Internationally, I was a Founding Members of AVIEN – Anti-Virus Information Exchange Network, and served as Chairman of its Disciplinary Committee and well as member of the Advisory Board to the Administrator.

I have presented at international conferences, including the Virus Bulletin Conference, at which I am a regular attendee.

My work has been published in trade magazines and specialized websites such as Security Focus.

I have written a handbook on Anti-Virus Security and was one of the co-authors of the AVIEN Malware Defense Guide. 

I am regularly asked to speak at small organization and company conferences and training seminars.

Media requests, Opportunities and general inquiries are welcome at kbechtel@teamanti-virus.org

Discussion with Kenneth Bechtel
  • Introductions
  • The earlier days versus today. What’s changed and what’s the same?
  • The (alleged) infosec labor crunch. Kenneth isn’t the first person who’s had trouble finding work. What gives?
  • Your recent post about your cowboy hat

[Evan] Alright. Let’s see what we can do here to help each other. Kenneth, I sincerely appreciate your tireless work for this industry and for being on our show!

News

[Evan] Some interesting news stories for us to discuss this week. The first one is interesting because we’ve warned about this and sadly things are going to get much worse before they get better.

Closing

[Evan] OK, cool! Episode 54 is a wrap. Thank you again Kenneth for being on our show. I think our discussion will benefit others!

Thank you to our listeners! Keep the questions and feedback coming. We love it, well Brad does, but I don’t. Send things to us by email at unsecurity@protonmail.com. If you’re the social type, socialize with us on Twitter, I’m @evanfrancen, and Brad’s @BradNigh. Kenneth, do you have a way you want people to socialize with you?

Follow SecurityStudio (@studiosecurity) and FRSecure (@FRSecure) for more goodies!

That’s it! Talk to you all again next week!

#S2Roadshow Recap – Week Six

Fargo, ND and Rochester, NY

If you’re new, or you’re confused about this #S2Roadshow thing, start here (maybe). It’s hard to believe that each week gets better, but it’s true, it does! Week #6 (this one) was the best yet.

Previous Week’s Recaps:

The purpose of the SecurityStudio Roadshow (#S2Roadhow) is to meet people and make partners. We want to meet people, understand their businesses, and help them grow using simple, fundamental, and compliant solutions (S2Score, S2Org, S2Vendor, and S2Team/S2Me).

Our mission is to fix the broken information security industry. Success requires collaboration, partnership, and transparency.

John and I spent half the week together and the other half in separate towns.

BBQ Reviews

In full transparency, we have a secondary mission on the #S2Roadshow. We eat as much BBQ as we can. After stuffing ourselves, I summarize our BBQ reviews at the end of each recap article (see below).

Fargo, North Dakota

If you’ve never been to Fargo in November, you’ve got to give it a try sometime. You can visit Bonanzaville USA, the Fargo Air Museum, or you could come to do what we did, attend Network Center’s nVision conference. We left on Tuesday for the 3-1/2 hour drive to Fargo, and got there just in time for the vendor social hour.

Network Center is a great company, and we’re big fans. It helps that they’re a trusted SecurityStudio partner.

On my trip up north, I was joined by three of my favorite SecurityStudio people; John Harmon, Justin Kallberg, and Steve Krause (all pictured below).

nVision 2019

We’ve been at the nVision conference for years now, and this one was the best yet. There were 500+ people packed into the Fargo Holiday Inn Conference Center, all there to learn and network together. Of course, there were plenty of vendor booths there (including ours – below) too.

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There were so many incredible people at this event, and it was great catching up with people I hadn’t seen in a while. After spending a few hours hanging out with cool people, I gave my talk on the main stage at 1:00. I changed my talk at the last minute (as per usual) and decided to give the “How do we secure America” sermon that I developed the week prior.

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The place was packed and the audience was amazing! We hung out at our booth afterwards and gave out a whole box of UNSECURITY books for free. I met countless awesome people, including Zoe Bundy (pictured below with her brother Grover), Frank LaLonde (from Nativity Church of Fargo – also pictured below), John Nagel (Cybernet Security), and Larry Schwab (Discovery Benefits CISO).

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One person who stands out from the rest is Zoe. She’s incredible, and she’s the founder of Brainy Ladies. Brainy Ladies is a cool organization with an awesome purpose; “We help young girls find their inner genius by helping them remain interested in STEM.” I met Zoe for the first time at last year’s nVision conference, and it was wonderful to see her again. Read her story here, and tell me you’re not impressed! I’ll get her on the UNSECURITY Podcast one of these days, hopefully soon.

nVision was a great conference. Sadly, we didn’t have time to grab any BBQ in Fargo. Curious, is there any good BBQ in Fargo? The platter of bacon laid out at the nVision lunch buffet will have to do.

Rochester, New York

Made it back to the Twin Cities early enough to grab five hours of sleep before catching my 5:15am flight to Rochester. I have an affinity for Rochester because one of my favorite customers (@FRsecure) is Excellus BlueCross BlueShield. Funny thing is (sort of), I’ll be back in Rochester to do some work for Excellus the following week.

The purpose for this particular visit was to attend and present at the Rochester ISSA chapter meeting being held on Thursday night.

Two trips to Rochester in five days. Weird.

First thing after landing in Rochester was to find BBQ. Took out my phone, opened my Apple Map and typed “BBQ”. The closest BBQ joint that looked legit was Unkl Moe’s BBQ & Catering at 493 West Ave (review below). That’ll do.

After BBQ, it was time for an early check-in at the hotel and a short nap.

Rochester ISSA

The Rochester ISSA meeting started at 6:00pm, and I was almost late. I started doing some work in the hotel and got a little caught up in it. The meeting was held at the offices of Nixon Peabody, a nice law firm located at 1300 Clinton Square. Guess what they had catered in? BBQ! Before the meeting started, we enjoyed some Dinosaur BBQ (one of my favorites in Rochester) while we got to know each other.

The meeting was great! Attendance was good, participation was awesome, and they let me preach for a full hour and a half. I preached about mental health, getting our industry’s security #*(! together, and civic duties for security people. Great talk and discussion!

Gave away a few books, and headed back to the hotel at 10:00pm. Ray Feldman left me a nice shoutout before I got back.

Most of the day Friday was spent at Starbucks catching up on email and other things that I’d neglected over the week. Tried another BBQ joint before heading to the airport, Texas Bar-B-Q Joint in Spencerport (review below).

Overall, this was another great week. Met a ton of new and wonderful people!

BBQ Reviews

Only two BBQ reviews again. We still need to step up our game.

Unkl Moe’s BBQ & Catering – no website – Overall: 6.5

Hard to believe that I didn’t nab any BBQ this week until Thursday after getting off the plane in Rochester. It is what it is. I chose Unkl Moe’s because it was the closest BBQ joint to the Rochester airport and it got fairly good reviews.

I walked in the front door and the smokey smell hit me nicely. The inside of this place reminded me of a small town southern diner with most of the seats occupied by regulars. My hopes were high. I bellied up to the counter, grabbed a menu, and ordered the BBQ ribs and pulled pork platter (choosing french fries and cabbage as my sides).

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Sadly, I was a little disappointed by the place, except for the conversations I had with the regulars. One conversation in particular was great! While eating, I struck up a conversation with a retired OTR trucker named Howard and we talked about all sorts of things; politics, his hometown in Georgia, etc.

The food definitely wasn’t the best thing about this place. The pulled pork had a nice texture, but the flavor was missing. The ribs were OK, but they were smothered in sauce. I’d go back to this place for the conversation, but not the food.

Texas Bar-B-Q Joint (Spencerport) – https://www.bbqrochester.com/spencerport – Overall: 7.00

I didn’t realize that this was a small chain of BBQ joints until I sat down to write this. This was my first trip to Spencerport and I was excited to try this place. The reviews were good and I felt like I could almost taste the pictures online.

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Walked in and ordered my food at the bar (sliced brisket, pulled pork, and sausage with macaroni and cheese and steamed vegetables for sides). The guy taking my order was helpful, and I took my seat at one of the open booths in the corner. This joint looked very promising and the it smelled amazing. It was lunch time and there were maybe eight people in the place.

It didn’t take long before I realized how cold it was. They must have had the thermostat set at 60! Whatever, I blew it off. I came here for some meat.

The cook called my name, and I jumped to grab my tray. I was excited and hungry. Turned out, I was also a little disappointed. Everything was OK, but nothing was exceptional. The portions were good. The pulled pork was a little watery. The brisket was OK, but it was cut too thick and it wasn’t smokey enough. The best part of the meal was sadly the macaroni and cheese.

Remember how I said the place was cold? A cold BBQ joint makes things suck more. This is because the meat on your plate starts cooling off too quickly and by the time you’re getting towards the end, the meat is cold, dry, and chewy.

The BBQ wasn’t bad. Just not sure I’ll be back. Maybe in the summer.

BBQ Summary

Again, two new BBQ joints to add to our list. This was a disappointing BBQ week. The winner was Texas Bar-B-Q Joint (Spencerport, NY). Pecan Lodge easily retains it’s top place as overall #S2Roadshow leader with a score of 9, and Bowlegged BBQ is still in the #2 spot. The current overall standings are listed below.

Overall Standings (at the end of #S2Roadshow Week Three):

  • Pecan Lodge – 9
  • Bowlegged BBQ – 8.75
  • Divine Swine – 8.5
  • Big Ed’s BBQ – 8.25
  • Mission BBQ – 8
  • Cousin’s BBQ – 7.75
  • Blackwood BBQ – 7.5
  • Broad Street BBQ – 7.5
  • Hard Eight – 7.25
  • Spring Creek Barbeque – 7.25
  • Redd’s BBQ – 7.25
  • Lucille’s Smokehouse BBQ – 7
  • Texas Bar-B-Q Joint – 7
  • Smoque – 6.75
  • Sweet Lucy’s Smokehouse – 6.75
  • Red Coal BBQ – 6.75
  • Unkl Moe’s – 6.5
  • Hambone’s Smokehouse – 6.25
  • Shakedown BBQ – N/A (wasn’t open when it was supposed to be, wasted trip)

Next Week’s #S2Roadshow

This is a crazy week. I’ll be back in Rochester, NY on Monday and Tuesday, flying back to Kansas City, MO on Wednesday, then out to Sacramento, CA. John joins me in Kansas City and Sacramento.

I’m pumped about Kansas City BBQ, but I’m there to talk with members of Greater Kansas City ISACA Chapter . This will be a good meeting for sure. Some of the members have been hyping it up online.

On Friday, I’m speaking at the Sacramento Valley ISSA meeting. I’m excited to meet a bunch of cool people, but I’m also excited about the weather!

Looking forward to another great week!

Stay tuned for next week’s #S2Roadshow updates. You can follow us on Twitter (@evanfrancen, @HarmonJohn, @StudioSecurity, and the #S2Roadshow hashtag) and on LinkedIn.

See you next week! If you want to collaborate with us, get in touch!

#S2Roadshow Recap – Week Four

San Diego, CA and Wise, VA

If you’re new, or you’re confused about this #S2Roadshow thing, start here (maybe).

Previous Week’s Recaps:

The purpose of the SecurityStudio Roadshow (#S2Roadhow) is to meet people and make partners. We want to meet people, understand their businesses, and help them grow using simple, fundamental, and compliant solutions (S2Score, S2Org, S2Vendor, and S2Team/S2Me).

Our mission is to fix the broken information security industry. Success requires collaboration, partnership, and transparency.

This week, John and I split up again, like we did in Week #2. I’ve got to be honest with you, traveling with John is more fun than not.

BBQ Reviews

In full transparency, we have a secondary mission on the #S2Roadshow. We eat as much BBQ as we can. After stuffing ourselves, I summarize our BBQ reviews at the end of each recap article (see below).

San Diego, California

My visit to San Diego was a short one, only one night. Flight to San Diego on Wednesday morning, and a flight back to Minnesota Thursday night. The primary purpose of my trip was to speak at the San Diego ISSA chapter meeting on Thursday.

I caught a 6:05am flight out of Minneapolis (too early) and got to San Diego around noon. I didn’t have any meetings yet, and it was too early to check into my hotel, so I hung out a Starbucks to catch up on some work.

The weather in San Diego was incredible! Mid-80s and sunny. Beats Minnesota where it was in the low-40s and rainy. Life is good.

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Eventually got caught up (almost), checked in, and grabbed some much desired BBQ (see below).

San Diego ISSA Chapter Meeting

Arrived a bit early to the meeting (not too early) and was surprised to see two of my favorite security people right when I walked in; Robert and Tina (pic in gallery below)! Got settled in and delivered my standard message. The meeting was well-attended, and I met some incredible people! I know that I use the word “incredible” a lot, but seriously, these were some of the best people I’ve met so far on our Roadshow. Met new friends Will, Alex, Jen, Salvador, Quinton, Tim, and Greg to name a few. I’m very excited to get to know them more and collaborate on cool things!

A copy of my standard presentation deck that I spoke from is here.

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Loved every minute of this. After the chapter meeting, I stopped by a friend’s work to say “hi” before heading to the airport. Shared a cup of coffee and a quick chat with Brian Gibbs.

This trip was a huge success, certain to produce some great relationships and some new SecurityStudio partnerships too!

Wise, Virginia

John was in Wise, Virginia at the same time I was in San Diego. John says he got the fuzzy end of the lollipop on this deal, but whatever. He was in Wise to speak at BSides Southwest Virginia, and I haven’t had much of a chance to catch up with him yet. I assume the event went well because he’s still alive and stuff. I saw him on Friday in the office, but we just didn’t get a chance to talk about his trip. So many meetings!

BBQ Reviews

Only two BBQ reviews this week, one from San Diego and one from Kingsport, Tennessee.

San Diego

Only had time to visit one BBQ joint, so I figured I better make it a good one. I searched online and found this place called Bowlegged BBQ located at 4255 Market Street in San Diego. 149 Yelp reviews and a rating of five stars! Impressive. I asked a few locals if they’d heard of the place. None of the people I asked had heard of it. Well, let’s do it…

Bowlegged BBQ – no website – Overall: 8.75

OK, this was some good BBQ! I feel bad for all the people who live here, but never experienced the joy. The place is family-owned and the atmosphere was perfect for a BBQ joint. A little cluttered, a little dirty, a little nostalgic, and a whole bunch of character. Ordered my meat from Jordan behind the counter, and I told him all I wanted was meat, no sides. Ordered rib tips, ribs, and brisket. The price? 20 bucks.

1o minutes later, I get this Styrofoam container filled with deliciousness. Like really filled and like really delicious! As you can see in the picture, the meat is drowning in sauce, and that’s generally a big no-no for me. For some reason it worked. The sauce was some sort of rural Georgia-tasting stuff with a hint of cinnamon. Weird, but delicious! I texted John and told him it was like a love fest between my mouth, my brain, and my belly. Definitely recommended!

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Kingsport, Tennessee

Broad Street BBQ – https://www.broadstreetbbq.com/ – Overall: 7.5

John’s words, “BBQ Review: Broad Street BBQ, Kingsport, TN. Brisket was decent, the rest was just ok. Will do in a pinch, but probably one and done on this one. Super nice people though!

That’s what he said.

OK, just two BBQ reviews. Sort of sad really. 🙁

BBQ Summary

Those were two new BBQ joints to add to our list. The winner this week was Bowlegged BBQ. Pecan Lodge is still the the overall #S2Roadshow leader with a score of 9, but Bowlegged BBQ jumps in at the #2 spot! The current overall standings are listed below.

Overall Standings (at the end of #S2Roadshow Week Three):

  • Pecan Lodge – 9
  • Bowlegged BBQ – 8.75
  • Divine Swine – 8.5
  • Big Ed’s BBQ – 8.25
  • Mission BBQ – 8
  • Blackwood BBQ – 7.5
  • Broad Street BBQ – 7.5
  • Spring Creek Barbeque – 7.25
  • Redd’s BBQ – 7.25
  • Lucille’s Smokehouse BBQ – 7
  • Smoque – 6.75
  • Sweet Lucy’s Smokehouse – 6.75
  • Red Coal BBQ – 6.75
  • Hambone’s Smokehouse – 6.25
  • Shakedown BBQ – N/A (wasn’t open when it was supposed to be, wasted trip)
  • Hard Eight BBQ – INC (we were too full, need to go back)

Next Week’s #S2Roadshow

John and I are together again, and we’re back in Dallas! It’s going to be hard to pass up Pecan Lodge and we definitely need to visit Hard Eight again (this time we’ll eat it).

We’re heading to Dallas this week to participate in an ICI Cybersecurity Forum. Should be fun.

Stay tuned for next week’s #S2Roadshow updates! You can follow us on Twitter (@evanfrancen, @HarmonJohn, @StudioSecurity, and the #S2Roadshow hashtag) and on LinkedIn.

See you next week! If you want to collaborate with us, get in touch!