The UNSECURITY Podcast – Episode 57 Show Notes

This week we continue the conversation with our special guest, Justin Webb. Justin is a Data Privacy & Cybersecurity Attorney, and the Chief Information Security Officer at Godfrey & Kahn, S.C. in Milwaukee.

If you missed last week’s show (episode 56), we talked about Target’s lawsuit against Chubb and China’s Cryptography Law. China’s Cryptography Law goes into effect on January 1st, and there are multiple perspectives about what it will mean for commerce, including this recent take from International Financial Law Review (IFLR).

Justin’s insights were so good, we invited him back! This week, we’re going to talk about the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA).

Brad’s leading the show this week, and here are my notes.

SHOW NOTES – Episode 57

Date: Monday, December 9th, 2019

Show Topics:

Our topics this week:

  • The California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA)
    • What is CCPA?
    • How is CCPA similar to GDPR, and how is it different?
    • Who does CCPA apply to?
    • What are the consequences of non-compliance?
    • What advice do we have for organizations?
    • What do we think is in the future with CCPA?
    • What do we expect other states to do?
  • New Show Format (reminder)
  • News

[Brad] Welcome back! This is episode 57 of the UNSECURITY Podcast, and I’m your host this week, Brad Nigh. Today is December 9th, and joining me is my co-host, Evan Francen. Good morning Evan.

[EvanIs it? We’ll find out.

[Brad] We have a great show planned today. This is the 2nd part of our first two-part show, and we welcome back our favorite data privacy attorney, Justin Webb. Hi Justin.

[Justin] Justin will likely say “hi” and some other things.

[Brad] In last week’s show, episode 56, we discussed a lot. We talked at length about the Target lawsuit against Chubb and we talked about China’s Cryptography Law. We intended to talk about the California Consumer Privacy Act (or “CCPA”), but we decided to move it to today’s show in order to give it more of the attention it deserves.

Before we dive in to CCPA, let’s check in quick. Guys, how was your week last week? We’ll start with you Justin.

[Justin] Justin shares what he’d like to share.

[Brad] My week was…  How about you, Evan?

[Evan] Sharing is caring.

[Brad] Alright, let’s get into this whole CCPA thing.

California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) discussion

Most of this show is dedicated to this discussion.

A few California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA), references:

[Brad] Awesome discussion! I think our listeners will get some real value out of this. One quick housekeeping thing before we get into the news.

New Show Format (reminder)

[Brad] Just a quick reminder about the upcoming new addition to the show, starting after the first of the year. We’re devoting ten minutes of each show to anyone who’s looking for a job in the information security industry. Email us at if you want your slot! We’ll respond to you on a first come, first serve basis.

We’ve already received some emails, which is super cool!

If you’re chosen, and the time works out, we’ll invite you on to our show to learn about you. Think of this as a quick 10 minute interview. We’ll work out the kinks between now and the time we kick this off, but we’ll have a standard format defined by then.

If you’re looking for a job, use us to help you get the word out! Stay tuned, we’ll mention this a few more times before we make this change official.

OK, now some news…


[Brad] OK, lots of things this week, but we’ll focus on a few news stories.


[Brad] That’s it. Episode 57 is a wrap. Thank you to Justin for joining us and for sharing your perspective again! We’ve got another great show planned for next week, but we’re not letting the cat out of the bag just yet.

Thank you to our listeners! Keep the questions and feedback coming. Send things to us by email at If you’re the social type, socialize with us on Twitter, I’m @BradNigh and Evan’s @evanfrancen. If you’d like to get in touch with Justin, you can find him on LinkedIn.

Lastly, be sure to follow SecurityStudio (@studiosecurity) and FRSecure (@FRSecure) for more goodies.

That’s it! Talk to you all again next week!


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I’ll write a privacy policy soon (that you won’t read).

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