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The UNSECURITY Podcast – Episode 64 Show Notes – 3rd Party Risk

Here we are, already into the 4th week of January and this is the last show for the month.

Quick recap of last week because it was awesome!

On Saturday (1/18), we held our holiday party at Punch Bowl Social. FRSecure and SecurityStudio employees flocked in from all over the country (Nevada, Kentucky, Missouri, Florida, etc.) to celebrate together. We sort of took over the joint with 120+ people eating, drinking, singing karaoke, bowling, playing pool, and hanging out.

One of our core values is “work hard/play hard”, and Lord knows we are experts at both these things! The teams did incredible things in 2019 and every single person played a critical part in our success. It was so awesome to spend time with each other, celebrating (a great 2019) and looking forward to an even better year ahead (2020)! It was a great night!

We gathered everyone together on Monday (1/20) morning for our quarter end/year end meeting. There are no words to describe what these people did in 2019. There isn’t an adequate adjective. By every account, 2019 was a huge success. Not only in terms of dollars and cents, but more importantly in the impact we made on our industry and in people’s lives.

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Just a few highlights:

  • FRSecure has helped more than 1,000 organizations build and maintain better information security programs.
  • The CISSP Mentor Program helped 532 people learn better information security, secure better career options, and/or successfully pass their CISSP exam. UPDATE: We exceeded the entire 2019 enrollment within 24 hours of opening this year’s registration!
  • We gave more than 100 talks at conferences all over the United States.
  • SecurityStudio made great strides in helping organizations and people speak the same (information security language), including the release of the S2Me.
  • The companies grew at more than 40% again (top line), for the 10th consecutive year.

I could write an entire book about what was accomplished in 2019, and I’m speechless when I think about what we’ll do together this year (2020)!

The Minnetonka HQ office was full and buzzing on Monday! The rest of the week was filled with meetings, conversations, and security stuff. All icing on the cake.

Alright, on to the show notes. This is Brad’s show to lead and these (below) are his notes.


SHOW NOTES – Episode 64

Date: Monday, January 27th, 2020

Show Topics:

Our topics this week:

  • Opening
    • Catching Up
    • FRSecure Year End
    • SecurityStudio Year End
  • 3rd-Party/Vendor Risk Management
    • Let’s get literal.
    • A deep dive.
    • Seven “must haves”.
    • A warning (or two)
  • Next Week
    • Tips for talking to boards
    • I’m going to RSA this year and I already regret it
  • News
Opening

[Brad] Welcome back! This is episode 64 of the UNSECURITY Podcast, and I’m your host this week, Brad Nigh. Today is  January 27th, and joining me is my co-host, Evan Francen. Good morning Evan.

[Evan] Something energetic and uplifting I’m sure.

[Brad] We’ve got another great show planned for you this week, and we’ve already got some good topics to talk about next week. This week we’re going to cover a deep dive into 3rd-party (or vendor) risk management. Next week we’re going to cover tips for talking to boards and have a conversation about the RSA money grab. Don’t miss it! I’m guessing it could get controversial.

Before we get started, let’s recap last week quick.

  • Brad’s update(s)
  • Evan’s update(s)

[Brad] I wanted to take some time today talking about Vendor Risk Management and the difference between an audit based certification (SOC2, ISO, HITRUST) vs a risk assessment (S2Org or similar).

[Evan] Yeah man! Let’s do it!

3rd-Party/Vendor Risk Management

[Brad] You added stuff to my show notes! What gives man?

[Evan] Yeah, I couldn’t help myself. Hope you’re OK with it.

[Brad] What’s with “let’s get literal”?

Discussion…

[Brad] Let’s talk about the differences between audit based certification (SOC2, ISO, HITRUST, etc.) versus a risk assessment (S2Org or similar).

  • The fundamental differences
  • The positives and negatives to both approaches
  • At the end of the day, what should an organization be trying to accomplish with their Vendor Risk Management program
  • What should the vendor share/not share, how do they handle requests for more than they are comfortable sharing

Be sure to mention the new article (not yet posted), “Seven must-haves for effective third-party information security risk management”. You can get the free preview download by emailing us.

[Brad] Hopefully that was helpful to people working on both sides of Vendor Risk Management. Let’s do some news.

News

[Brad]

Always plenty of things to talk about in the news, and here’s a few stories that caught my eye this week:

Closing

[Brad] That’s it. Episode 64 is a wrap. Thank you to our listeners! Keep the questions and feedback coming. Send things to us by email at unsecurity@protonmail.com. If you’re the social type, socialize with us on Twitter, I’m @BradNigh and Evan is @evanfrancen. Lastly, be sure to follow SecurityStudio (@studiosecurity) and FRSecure (@FRSecure) for more goodies!

That’s it. Talk to you all again next week!

The UNSECURITY Podcast – Episode 63 Show Notes – Mission

I’m grateful to be back home. Two weeks in Cancun, Mexico where the sun was shining and the temperature was in the 80s. Now, I’m back in Minnesota where there’s a foot of snow on the ground and the temperature is in the single digits. I’m grateful to be back home because I’m with my family again. My FRSecure and SecurityStudio family!

THANK YOU to Brad and Ryan for doing holding down the fort!

OK, I was in Cancun to begin writing our next book. It’s “our” next book because Brad’s going to write his part and Ryan’s going to add a little flair too. The book is unofficially titled “Securing America” and will start to come together over the next couple of months. The (rough) outline looks like this so far:

  • Introduction
  • Information Security Operating System (ISOS)
    • Components
    • The Cycle
  • Securing America
    • Small Business
    • Local Government
    • Education
    • Home
  • The People Component
  • The Asset Component
  • The Control Component
  • The Process Component
  • The Measurement Component
  • The Journey – All Working Together
  • Starting NOW

If this book is anything like the first one (UNSECURITY), there’s likely to be some changes to the outline, but this is what we’ve got so far.

Alright. On to the show. This is episode 63 of the UNSECURITY Podcast. I’ll be hosting and these are my notes. Joining me in studio will be my co-host Brad Nigh and SecurityStudio’s very own Ryan Cloutier.

Let’s do this!

-Evan


SHOW NOTES – Episode 63

Date: Monday, January 20th, 2020

Show Topics:

Our topics this week:

  • Opening
    • Back Home
    • Book (Securing America) Status
    • What did I miss?
  • U.S. and Iran
    • Finishing the discussion from last week.
    • We’re not out of the woods.
  •  The “Mission” and CISSP Mentor Program
    • What is it?
    • Why do we care?
    • How can you join us?
  • News
Opening

[Evan] Hey UNSECURITY Podcast listeners! This is episode 62 and the date is January 20th, 2020. I’m Evan Francen, and it’s good to be back! I’m hosting today’s show, and joining me in studio is my friendly co-host Brad Nigh and my left-hand man Ryan Cloutier. Hey guys.

[Brad & Ryan] They’ll say “hi” or something.

[Evan] Did you guys catch that? I called Ryan my “left-hand man”. Of course you did, you guys read the show notes! You know why I called Ryan my “left-hand man”?

[Brad & Ryan] Stumped. Maybe.

[Evan] Well, I’ll tell you…

[Evan] Alright, I’m back home. It feels good to be back, and it couldn’t have been any better to come back to a bunch of smiling faces at our holiday party on Saturday! What did you guys think?

[Brad & Ryan] Sharing thoughts and such.

[Evan] We have a ton to cover today! Let’s catch-up quick. You guys cool with that?

Catching Up Discussion
  • Back home
    • Holiday Party
    • Q1/2020, Expectations
  • Book (Securing America) things
  • Did I miss anything?

[Evan] Like always, many good things to look forward too. Love you guys and love being back. Last week I had to run halfway through the show. We were talking about tensions between the United States and Iran and how it affects us all. There’s this talk of a cyberwar between us, and I just want to close the loop a little on the topic.

U.S. and Iran Discussion

[Evan] OK, the world’s not likely to end today, but we need to stay vigilant. Complacency and ignorance come with consequences. Switching gears now…

We talk about this mission at FRSecure and SecurityStudio. Brad, you have your take. Ryan, you have yours. I’ve certainly got mine too, but what is this “mission” and why is it important for our listeners to know about it?

Discussion about The “Mission” and CISSP Mentor Program

An open and honest discussion about our mission.

  • What is it?
  • Why do we care so much about it?
  • Are there ways for people to join us? If so, how?

The CISSP Mentor Program Registration is Open!

[Evan] Yes, it’s all about the mission! The theory is if you focus on the mission you’ll make money, but if you focus on the money, you’re certain to miss the mission. Love it! Alright, good talk. Let’s cover a few news stories, and wrap this thing up.

News

There’s always plenty of news in the information security industry. Here are a few stories that caught my eye recently:

Closing

[Evan] Wow. Lot’s going on and plenty of news to stay up on. I guess this is why they pay us the big buck, right?

This is the end of our show, and we close these things out pretty much the same way every week. Keep sending us your feedback, tips, of whatever else you’d like us to know at unsecurity@protonmail.com. If you have a suggested guest for us to reach out to, let us know that too.

If you’re the social type, socialize with us on Twitter, I’m Evan and you can find me @evanfrancen. Brad’s a cool cat, and you can find him @BradNigh. Ryan’s not to shabby himself, follow him at @CLOUTIERSEC.

That’s it! Talk to you all again next week!

The UNSECURITY Podcast – Episode 58 Show Notes

We welcome Mike Dronen to be our guest in episode 58 of the UNSECURITY Podcast! Mike is the Executive Director of Technology for Minnetonka Public Schools (District 276), and he’s joining us to talk about information security challenges facing K-12.

In case you missed the past couple of weeks, we talked a ton about legal and privacy stuff with our favorite data privacy and “cybersecurity” attorney, Justin Webb. Justin works for Godfrey & Kahn, S.C. in Milwaukee, and here’s what we covered:

Lots of good content and advice in these past couple of episodes. This week with Mike Dronnen is sure to be great too!

I’m leading the show this week, and here are my notes.


SHOW NOTES – Episode 58

Date: Monday, December 16th, 2019

Show Topics:

Our topics this week:

  • Information Security Challenges in K-12
    • Article: The Cybersecurity Threats That Keep K–12 CIOs Up at Night
    • How does information security work in K-12?
    • What makes K-12 different than everywhere else?
    • What are there differences between large school districts and smaller ones?
    • What tips do we have for administrators?
    • What tips do we have for educators?
    • What tips do we have for parents?
  • News
Opening

[Evan] Welcome back! This is episode 58 of the UNSECURITY Podcast, and I’m your host this week, Evan Francen. Today is December 16th, and joining me is my co-host, Brad Nigh. Good morning Brad.

[Brad] We’ll see how awake he is this fine Monday morning.

[Evan] We’ve had a couple of great shows the past couple of weeks. We learned a lot from our guest, Justin Webb. We talked a ton about privacy things and legal things. This week we’re going to shift gears a bit, and talk about information security in K-12. To help us navigate these waters, I’ve invited the Executive Director of Technology from Minnetonka Public Schools to our show. Minnetonka is my alma mater, and Mike Dronnen is a good friend. Welcome Mike!

[Mike] Mike’s a good guy. He’ll surely say “hi” or something.

[Evan] Mike, we’re excited to have you on the show for a number of reasons. You’re a good guy, I’m a Skipper, and Brad’s got some kids in your district too. Thank you for joining, especially on short notice.

Before we dive in, I like to check-in. Mike, how you doing? How was your week and what do you expect this week?

[Mike] Mike shares what he’d like to share.

[Evan] And Brad. How are you and what’s up?

[Brad] Sharing is caring.

[Evan] We’re all busy. Hopefully, health busy. My quick recap…

Alright, let’s talk about information security in K-12, shall we?

Discussion about information security challenges in K-12
  • Article: The Cybersecurity Threats That Keep K–12 CIOs Up at Night
  • How does information security work in K-12?
  • What makes K-12 different than everywhere else?
  • What are there differences between large school districts and smaller ones?
  • What tips do we have for administrators?
  • What tips do we have for educators?
  • What tips do we have for parents?

[Evan] Another great discussion. There are some real challenges for K-12, and I think we’ve all got some skin in this game to do the best we can. Thanks Mike!

Let’s do some news…

News

[Evan] Always plenty of things to talk about in the news, and here’s a few stories that caught my eye this week:

Closing

[Evan] That’s it. Episode 58 is a wrap. Thank you to Mike for joining us and for sharing your perspectives on K-12 information security!

Thank you to our listeners! Keep the questions and feedback coming. Send things to us by email at unsecurity@protonmail.com. If you’re the social type, socialize with us on Twitter, I’m @evanfrancen, and Brad’s @BradNigh. Mike, is there a way you prefer for people to interact with you?

Lastly, be sure to follow SecurityStudio (@studiosecurity) and FRSecure (@FRSecure) for more goodies.

That’s it! Talk to you all again next week!

The UNSECURITY Podcast – Episode 57 Show Notes

This week we continue the conversation with our special guest, Justin Webb. Justin is a Data Privacy & Cybersecurity Attorney, and the Chief Information Security Officer at Godfrey & Kahn, S.C. in Milwaukee.

If you missed last week’s show (episode 56), we talked about Target’s lawsuit against Chubb and China’s Cryptography Law. China’s Cryptography Law goes into effect on January 1st, and there are multiple perspectives about what it will mean for commerce, including this recent take from International Financial Law Review (IFLR).

Justin’s insights were so good, we invited him back! This week, we’re going to talk about the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA).

Brad’s leading the show this week, and here are my notes.


SHOW NOTES – Episode 57

Date: Monday, December 9th, 2019

Show Topics:

Our topics this week:

  • The California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA)
    • What is CCPA?
    • How is CCPA similar to GDPR, and how is it different?
    • Who does CCPA apply to?
    • What are the consequences of non-compliance?
    • What advice do we have for organizations?
    • What do we think is in the future with CCPA?
    • What do we expect other states to do?
  • New Show Format (reminder)
  • News
Opening

[Brad] Welcome back! This is episode 57 of the UNSECURITY Podcast, and I’m your host this week, Brad Nigh. Today is December 9th, and joining me is my co-host, Evan Francen. Good morning Evan.

[EvanIs it? We’ll find out.

[Brad] We have a great show planned today. This is the 2nd part of our first two-part show, and we welcome back our favorite data privacy attorney, Justin Webb. Hi Justin.

[Justin] Justin will likely say “hi” and some other things.

[Brad] In last week’s show, episode 56, we discussed a lot. We talked at length about the Target lawsuit against Chubb and we talked about China’s Cryptography Law. We intended to talk about the California Consumer Privacy Act (or “CCPA”), but we decided to move it to today’s show in order to give it more of the attention it deserves.

Before we dive in to CCPA, let’s check in quick. Guys, how was your week last week? We’ll start with you Justin.

[Justin] Justin shares what he’d like to share.

[Brad] My week was…  How about you, Evan?

[Evan] Sharing is caring.

[Brad] Alright, let’s get into this whole CCPA thing.

California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) discussion

Most of this show is dedicated to this discussion.

A few California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA), references:

[Brad] Awesome discussion! I think our listeners will get some real value out of this. One quick housekeeping thing before we get into the news.

New Show Format (reminder)

[Brad] Just a quick reminder about the upcoming new addition to the show, starting after the first of the year. We’re devoting ten minutes of each show to anyone who’s looking for a job in the information security industry. Email us at unsecurity@protonmail.com if you want your slot! We’ll respond to you on a first come, first serve basis.

We’ve already received some emails, which is super cool!

If you’re chosen, and the time works out, we’ll invite you on to our show to learn about you. Think of this as a quick 10 minute interview. We’ll work out the kinks between now and the time we kick this off, but we’ll have a standard format defined by then.

If you’re looking for a job, use us to help you get the word out! Stay tuned, we’ll mention this a few more times before we make this change official.

OK, now some news…

News

[Brad] OK, lots of things this week, but we’ll focus on a few news stories.

Closing

[Brad] That’s it. Episode 57 is a wrap. Thank you to Justin for joining us and for sharing your perspective again! We’ve got another great show planned for next week, but we’re not letting the cat out of the bag just yet.

Thank you to our listeners! Keep the questions and feedback coming. Send things to us by email at unsecurity@protonmail.com. If you’re the social type, socialize with us on Twitter, I’m @BradNigh and Evan’s @evanfrancen. If you’d like to get in touch with Justin, you can find him on LinkedIn.

Lastly, be sure to follow SecurityStudio (@studiosecurity) and FRSecure (@FRSecure) for more goodies.

That’s it! Talk to you all again next week!

The UNSECURITY Podcast – Episode 56 Show Notes

Brad and I hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday! We have so many things to be thankful for, including our faith, our families, our work families (FRSecure and SecurityStudio), our friends, our partners, our clients, and last, but not least, our UNSECURITY Podcast listeners!

Our listeners make our podcast worthwhile.

If you missed last week, we introduced you to one of the most amazing 15 year-old kids you’ll ever meet, Zoe Bundy. She’s an all around awesome gal, and the founder of Brainy Ladies. Give it a listen. You won’t be disappointed!

This week we welcome another special guest, Justin Webb. Justin is a “Data Privacy & Cybersecurity Attorney / Chief Information Security Officer at Godfrey & Kahn, S.C.”. We’re going to talk to Justin about all sorts of legal information security and privacy stuff. It’ll be like 30-40 minutes of free legal advice (sort of)!

I’m (Evan) leading the show this week, and here are my notes.


SHOW NOTES – Episode 56

Date: Monday, December 2nd, 2019

Show Topics:

Our topics this week:

  • Introducing Justin Webb
    • Who is Justin Webb?
    • Target vs. Chubb
    • The California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA)
    • China’s Cryptography Law
  • New Show Format (reminder)
  • News
Opening

[Evan] Welcome back! Unless you’re lost, you know this is the UNSECURITY Podcast. This is episode 56, and I’m Evan Francen, your host. The date is December 2nd, and joining me is my buddy Brad Nigh. Sup Brad?

[BradShares some of the simple things in life.

[Evan] How was your Thanksgiving holiday?

[Brad] Great, duh!

[Evan] We have another awesome show planned today! A couple of weeks ago, I read a news story about Target suing Chubb, their insurance provider, about claims related to the infamous Target breach of 2013. Here we are, six years later, and the fallout continues.

People who know my past, know that I spent twenty-one months consulting the Special Litigation Committee (SLC) of Target Corporation’s Board of Directors who addressed the derivative claims
arising out of the December 2013 data breach. I mention this only because I’m still obligated to maintain confidentiality from this work, and for perspective. I was privileged to see almost everything about this breach, or at least it seemed that way.

So, I read the news about this lawsuit, and I figured I’d reach out to my favorite cyber-insurance guy, David Kruse and get his take. David introduced me to this cool cat, Justin Webb, an information security stud and data privacy attorney with Godfrey & Kahn, a leading law firm out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Welcome Justin!

[Justin] Justin does Justin.

[Evan] I’m sort of looking at this like we get 30 minutes or so of free legal advice. Right?

[Justin] Probably not right, but whatever.

[Evan] We’re very excited to have you join us Justin!

Discussion with Justin

Conversation items:

[Evan] Good stuff! Legalling is exhausting. Thank you Justin for providing your insight and advice!

New Show Format Discussion (reminder)

[Evan] Just a quick reminder about the upcoming new addition to the show, starting after the first of the year. We’re devoting ten minutes of each show to anyone who’s looking for a job in the information security industry. Email us at unsecurity@protonmail.com if you want your slot! We’ll respond to you on a first come, first serve basis.

We’ve already received some emails, which is super cool!

If you’re chosen, and the time works out, we’ll invite you on to our show to learn about you. Think of this as a quick 10 minute interview. We’ll work out the kinks between now and the time we kick this off, but we’ll have a standard format defined by then.

If you’re looking for a job, use us to help you get the word out! Stay tuned, we’ll mention this a few more times before we make this change official.

OK, now some news…

News

[Evan] Alright, what the heck happened this last week? Let’s see…

Closing

[Evan] That’s it. Episode 56 is a wrap. Thank you to Justin Webb for joining us and for sharing your perspective.

Thank you to our listeners! Keep the questions and feedback coming. We’re still a little behind on responding right now, so please be patient with us. We love your feedback. Send things to us by email at unsecurity@protonmail.com. If you’re the social type, socialize with us on Twitter, I’m @evanfrancen and Brad’s @BradNigh. Justin, how do you want people to socialize with you?

Follow SecurityStudio (@studiosecurity) and FRSecure (@FRSecure) for more goodies there too!

That’s it! Talk to you all again next week!